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		By: Jonice		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2026 20:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/childhood-emotional-neglect-qa/comment-page-13/#comment-14903&quot;&gt;Adey&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Adey, I just want to point out that it is never too late to make changes inside yourself that will change your whole life. You sound like a very insightful person who&#039;s done a lot of work on self-understanding. I encourage you to shift over to self-care. You can learn to enjoy things and people and open yourself up to a whole new world. I hope you will do that work because you deserve full happiness and fulfillment. All my best to you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/childhood-emotional-neglect-qa/comment-page-13/#comment-14903">Adey</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Adey, I just want to point out that it is never too late to make changes inside yourself that will change your whole life. You sound like a very insightful person who&#8217;s done a lot of work on self-understanding. I encourage you to shift over to self-care. You can learn to enjoy things and people and open yourself up to a whole new world. I hope you will do that work because you deserve full happiness and fulfillment. All my best to you!</p>
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		By: Stephanie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2026 04:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My situation feels a bit different. Both of my parents experienced their own trauma in childhood, my mom had an abusive alcoholic father and my dad never knew his father. My mom treated me like she owned me. I was &quot;hers.&quot; Something must have happened between my parents when I was in elementary school, because at some point, my mom started using me to replace my dad. As I got older, she would tell me stuff I did not need to know about their marriage. They remained married and I always thought they would get divorced. At least then, I wouldn&#039;t have to hear the loud voices and verbal abuse and threats they threw at each other. I became the &quot;people pleaser, introverted, stay quiet and don&#039;t do anything to make them mad at each other&quot; child. I never learned how to handle conflict appropriately or set boundaries. I am extremely independent, critical of myself and come across as critical of others because of the standards I set. I am existentially lonely and feel misunderstood most of the time and that is if people try to understand me at all. My mother kept me on a leash so to speak until I graduated college and got married. But it was only partial freedom, because I recently figured out my extreme reaction to things is because they are triggers from my childhood: when my feelings do not matter, or I am treated like I do not deserve to have a voice. I think about the fear I had of my parents, the manipulation and control used to keep me in line so I would conform to what my mother wanted. Yet I was always told I was loved and wanted. So I think it was emotional neglect. My feelings did not matter as much as my mother&#039;s did. Things always came back to what she felt, thought or wanted. She stripped my dad of his voice too, and he let her, probably because he ended up too tired to fight more. But he didn&#039;t fight for me either. I feel like I was at my mother&#039;s mercy because she had such a strong will and no one would cross her. Consciously or subconsciously, I learned to do what she wanted or be made to feel bad if I didn&#039;t.  Was this emotional neglect? I think so....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My situation feels a bit different. Both of my parents experienced their own trauma in childhood, my mom had an abusive alcoholic father and my dad never knew his father. My mom treated me like she owned me. I was &#8220;hers.&#8221; Something must have happened between my parents when I was in elementary school, because at some point, my mom started using me to replace my dad. As I got older, she would tell me stuff I did not need to know about their marriage. They remained married and I always thought they would get divorced. At least then, I wouldn&#8217;t have to hear the loud voices and verbal abuse and threats they threw at each other. I became the &#8220;people pleaser, introverted, stay quiet and don&#8217;t do anything to make them mad at each other&#8221; child. I never learned how to handle conflict appropriately or set boundaries. I am extremely independent, critical of myself and come across as critical of others because of the standards I set. I am existentially lonely and feel misunderstood most of the time and that is if people try to understand me at all. My mother kept me on a leash so to speak until I graduated college and got married. But it was only partial freedom, because I recently figured out my extreme reaction to things is because they are triggers from my childhood: when my feelings do not matter, or I am treated like I do not deserve to have a voice. I think about the fear I had of my parents, the manipulation and control used to keep me in line so I would conform to what my mother wanted. Yet I was always told I was loved and wanted. So I think it was emotional neglect. My feelings did not matter as much as my mother&#8217;s did. Things always came back to what she felt, thought or wanted. She stripped my dad of his voice too, and he let her, probably because he ended up too tired to fight more. But he didn&#8217;t fight for me either. I feel like I was at my mother&#8217;s mercy because she had such a strong will and no one would cross her. Consciously or subconsciously, I learned to do what she wanted or be made to feel bad if I didn&#8217;t.  Was this emotional neglect? I think so&#8230;.</p>
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		By: Adey		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 May 2026 11:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hello Dr Webb

Over here in England, I have found your work invaluable - although I found it far too late.

My parents did their best, but they were ignorant, uneducated and profoundly lacking in emotional intelligence. I think my mother also had a personality disorder; my father was a well-meaning enabler.

Probably like everyone else here, I didn&#039;t know I was emotionally neglected.

By my early teens, I had withdrawn from social life, concluded that I&#039;d never marry or have children, and decided that my priority must be getting out of the family home - getting my own space - as soon as I could.

So although I viscerally knew something was off, I just thought that that was how childhood and life were.

My parents somehow maintained the pretense that emotions simply weren&#039;t a thing - at least not for children. Emotions were a taboo in the way that sex, politics and religion are often a taboo in families.

When, inadvertently, I used a word that alluded to emotion - &#039;love&#039;, &#039;feel&#039; or &#039;want&#039; for example - my father would explode into a rage and assert that &quot;you don&#039;t have [whatever I had alluded to]: you&#039;re a child&quot;. My mother wouldn&#039;t say anything - because my mother hardly ever said anything, at least not until someone&#039;s back was turned, whereupon she&#039;d wish them an early and painful death with a smirk on her face.

Emotion was also not allowed to be expressed behaviorally, except when demanded. For example, if I was caught smiling without being instructed to smile at a joke made by a parent, my mother would break her silence and say &quot;wipe that smirk off your face or I&#039;ll wipe it off with the back of my hand&quot;. She never actually hit me though: my father did that, but only when instructed. If I spoke uninvited, she&#039;d say &quot;stop drawing attention to yourself&quot;. If I got excited, &quot;bloody shut up and grow up&quot;.

My parents, of course, not being children, were allowed emotion - although it was expressed through intemperate behavior rather than words, and it was always of the &#039;negative&#039; variety. My father&#039;s rages were in stark contrast to my mother&#039;s sullenness. But neither of them ever uttered an emotionally-descriptive word. Neither showed the other, or either of their children, any affection at all. It was a barren life.

Neither my brother (older than I) nor I had any friends. We were never allowed out without our parents, and when we went out with our parents we were not allowed to speak: our parents would speak for us always, starting with &quot;He&#039;s too shy to speak...&quot;. It was daily humiliation.

I now, in my late 50s, see that this has marred my life. I&#039;ve never married or had children - both things I now know I wanted more than anything but which I had simply thought I was not entitled to aspire to - and every romantic relationship I have had has been with someone whose behavior was strongly suggestive of a &#039;Cluster B&#039; personality disorder. I spent 15 years with someone I now believe had borderline and narcissistic personality disorder. That was a daily hell: almost everything I said or did led to rage, mocking, condescension or threats. I put up with it because never knew that there were women who were not abusive of men and I never knew I was entitled not to put up with it. She too had been raised by a mother exhibiting &#039;Cluster B&#039; traits and a well-meaning enabling father.

I now know that I suffer with social anhedonia: I don&#039;t enjoy, or know how to enjoy, the things everyone else seems to enjoy. As a result, no one can even remotely relate to me. 

I&#039;m fairly contented and outwardly successful, but very alone. 

And very knowledgeable about emotional neglect and personality disorders.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dr Webb</p>
<p>Over here in England, I have found your work invaluable &#8211; although I found it far too late.</p>
<p>My parents did their best, but they were ignorant, uneducated and profoundly lacking in emotional intelligence. I think my mother also had a personality disorder; my father was a well-meaning enabler.</p>
<p>Probably like everyone else here, I didn&#8217;t know I was emotionally neglected.</p>
<p>By my early teens, I had withdrawn from social life, concluded that I&#8217;d never marry or have children, and decided that my priority must be getting out of the family home &#8211; getting my own space &#8211; as soon as I could.</p>
<p>So although I viscerally knew something was off, I just thought that that was how childhood and life were.</p>
<p>My parents somehow maintained the pretense that emotions simply weren&#8217;t a thing &#8211; at least not for children. Emotions were a taboo in the way that sex, politics and religion are often a taboo in families.</p>
<p>When, inadvertently, I used a word that alluded to emotion &#8211; &#8216;love&#8217;, &#8216;feel&#8217; or &#8216;want&#8217; for example &#8211; my father would explode into a rage and assert that &#8220;you don&#8217;t have [whatever I had alluded to]: you&#8217;re a child&#8221;. My mother wouldn&#8217;t say anything &#8211; because my mother hardly ever said anything, at least not until someone&#8217;s back was turned, whereupon she&#8217;d wish them an early and painful death with a smirk on her face.</p>
<p>Emotion was also not allowed to be expressed behaviorally, except when demanded. For example, if I was caught smiling without being instructed to smile at a joke made by a parent, my mother would break her silence and say &#8220;wipe that smirk off your face or I&#8217;ll wipe it off with the back of my hand&#8221;. She never actually hit me though: my father did that, but only when instructed. If I spoke uninvited, she&#8217;d say &#8220;stop drawing attention to yourself&#8221;. If I got excited, &#8220;bloody shut up and grow up&#8221;.</p>
<p>My parents, of course, not being children, were allowed emotion &#8211; although it was expressed through intemperate behavior rather than words, and it was always of the &#8216;negative&#8217; variety. My father&#8217;s rages were in stark contrast to my mother&#8217;s sullenness. But neither of them ever uttered an emotionally-descriptive word. Neither showed the other, or either of their children, any affection at all. It was a barren life.</p>
<p>Neither my brother (older than I) nor I had any friends. We were never allowed out without our parents, and when we went out with our parents we were not allowed to speak: our parents would speak for us always, starting with &#8220;He&#8217;s too shy to speak&#8230;&#8221;. It was daily humiliation.</p>
<p>I now, in my late 50s, see that this has marred my life. I&#8217;ve never married or had children &#8211; both things I now know I wanted more than anything but which I had simply thought I was not entitled to aspire to &#8211; and every romantic relationship I have had has been with someone whose behavior was strongly suggestive of a &#8216;Cluster B&#8217; personality disorder. I spent 15 years with someone I now believe had borderline and narcissistic personality disorder. That was a daily hell: almost everything I said or did led to rage, mocking, condescension or threats. I put up with it because never knew that there were women who were not abusive of men and I never knew I was entitled not to put up with it. She too had been raised by a mother exhibiting &#8216;Cluster B&#8217; traits and a well-meaning enabling father.</p>
<p>I now know that I suffer with social anhedonia: I don&#8217;t enjoy, or know how to enjoy, the things everyone else seems to enjoy. As a result, no one can even remotely relate to me. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m fairly contented and outwardly successful, but very alone. </p>
<p>And very knowledgeable about emotional neglect and personality disorders.</p>
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		By: Kae		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 23:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My mother was abandoned by her addicted father and then by her narcissistic mother, so was emotionally neglected. My older sibling was born with severe physical disability. My father was often off doing his own thing and would fly off the handle when he was around. Me having any kind of needs was a problem for everyone because they were busy dealing with my brother&#039;s high needs and trying to escape their reality, so I just worked it all out by myself. I was the perfect child and was trotted out to show how they got one &#039;right&#039; - look how pretty and smart she is! 
We were often left with my grandmother who refused to think I should be upset about anything because I should be grateful I wasn&#039;t disabled.
I am terrified of rocking the boat in my most important relationships (I do it everywhere else though!).
I disassociate from my emotions and shut down when triggered. I feel like I have to fix everything for everyone in work and life. I feel like a selfish person for having boundaries, and my parents have dictated our relationship for years (eg you will have to come here).
At 56 I was diagnosed with ADHD, so it turned out I had some additional needs all along. So much for the perfect child. The amount of energy required to keep that all in check is at last being acknowledged, by me at least. I&#039;m not going there with the folks, they&#039;d probably scoff, then my mother would blame herself and play the victim.
Currently on my 3rd crack at therapy to really try and untangle all this and really feel at last that I am getting somewhere. Each therapy session feels like a brutal unmasking of the reality, because the surface has always been a brightly polished armour. As my therapist says, there are some really tight knots that need to be unpicked. I now identify not only as neurodivergent but as CEN, a child of emotionally immature parents and as a Glass Child. I am still see-through!

I have recently joined a group of people who are siblings of disabled people. There is very little work around us as a cohort and we could really do with some help. The pain, guilt, responsibility and lack of acknowledgement we feel is a great burden.
Thanks for listening. It feels amazing to be heard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother was abandoned by her addicted father and then by her narcissistic mother, so was emotionally neglected. My older sibling was born with severe physical disability. My father was often off doing his own thing and would fly off the handle when he was around. Me having any kind of needs was a problem for everyone because they were busy dealing with my brother&#8217;s high needs and trying to escape their reality, so I just worked it all out by myself. I was the perfect child and was trotted out to show how they got one &#8216;right&#8217; &#8211; look how pretty and smart she is!<br />
We were often left with my grandmother who refused to think I should be upset about anything because I should be grateful I wasn&#8217;t disabled.<br />
I am terrified of rocking the boat in my most important relationships (I do it everywhere else though!).<br />
I disassociate from my emotions and shut down when triggered. I feel like I have to fix everything for everyone in work and life. I feel like a selfish person for having boundaries, and my parents have dictated our relationship for years (eg you will have to come here).<br />
At 56 I was diagnosed with ADHD, so it turned out I had some additional needs all along. So much for the perfect child. The amount of energy required to keep that all in check is at last being acknowledged, by me at least. I&#8217;m not going there with the folks, they&#8217;d probably scoff, then my mother would blame herself and play the victim.<br />
Currently on my 3rd crack at therapy to really try and untangle all this and really feel at last that I am getting somewhere. Each therapy session feels like a brutal unmasking of the reality, because the surface has always been a brightly polished armour. As my therapist says, there are some really tight knots that need to be unpicked. I now identify not only as neurodivergent but as CEN, a child of emotionally immature parents and as a Glass Child. I am still see-through!</p>
<p>I have recently joined a group of people who are siblings of disabled people. There is very little work around us as a cohort and we could really do with some help. The pain, guilt, responsibility and lack of acknowledgement we feel is a great burden.<br />
Thanks for listening. It feels amazing to be heard.</p>
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		By: barbara		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2026 18:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/childhood-emotional-neglect-qa/comment-page-13/#comment-14844&quot;&gt;Kay&lt;/a&gt;.

I grew up in a household with an alcoholic/bipolar father, and depressed mother. Neither could provide emotional connection. My father was absorbed in his addiction, affairs,  time in the neighborhood bar. At home, he was sleeping off the alcohol in his bedroom, or staring at the news or sports on TV. We could walk write across his face, across the TV and he would not say a word.  Mentally, he was checked out. I can remember his anger when we had not done chores, I remember age 7 or so was the last time he played with us kids. I also remember during this time he hit my sister in the mouth causing it to bleed. During my teen years, his alcoholism got worse. He became a monster, Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, were the names we gave him when he went from episodes of depression ( would lie on the sofa staring at the floor with blank sad stare); and mania( irritable, hypertalkative, combative, delusional, dangerous). I thought he was problem, and mother was the safe space. Although she never protected us from his violent attacks that she would experience more often. When she finally put him out, I was 18. I then began to see my mother w/o the distraction of my father&#039;s behavior. I began to see her emotional neglect, how she didn&#039;t talk to us; she would come home from work, cook, and then retreat to her bedroom, close the door with a beer, talk to her girlfriends about my father&#039;s cheating. She worked nights, so we didn&#039;t get to see her during the school week. Until on the weekends, then she is on the phone, hushing us away as we knocked on her bedroom door, curious, or just wanting some attention, for her to talk to us. In my young adult years, I began to see her as emotionally manipulative. Due to her past, she is a child of incest, rejected by her mother, she had low-self esteem. She garnered self-esteem by putting her children down, making us feel confused, doubting our selves, gaslighting, belittling us in front of family members she held in esteem. She expected us to rise no higher than her level of self esteem, and therefore, me being the one who challenged her, I was ostracized and she tried to punish me for it. In my early 60&#039;s I got strong, and I told her to her face &quot; You don&#039;t get to do that no more&quot;. She is careful with me now. my brother and sister continued to suffer with mother pleasing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/childhood-emotional-neglect-qa/comment-page-13/#comment-14844">Kay</a>.</p>
<p>I grew up in a household with an alcoholic/bipolar father, and depressed mother. Neither could provide emotional connection. My father was absorbed in his addiction, affairs,  time in the neighborhood bar. At home, he was sleeping off the alcohol in his bedroom, or staring at the news or sports on TV. We could walk write across his face, across the TV and he would not say a word.  Mentally, he was checked out. I can remember his anger when we had not done chores, I remember age 7 or so was the last time he played with us kids. I also remember during this time he hit my sister in the mouth causing it to bleed. During my teen years, his alcoholism got worse. He became a monster, Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde, were the names we gave him when he went from episodes of depression ( would lie on the sofa staring at the floor with blank sad stare); and mania( irritable, hypertalkative, combative, delusional, dangerous). I thought he was problem, and mother was the safe space. Although she never protected us from his violent attacks that she would experience more often. When she finally put him out, I was 18. I then began to see my mother w/o the distraction of my father&#8217;s behavior. I began to see her emotional neglect, how she didn&#8217;t talk to us; she would come home from work, cook, and then retreat to her bedroom, close the door with a beer, talk to her girlfriends about my father&#8217;s cheating. She worked nights, so we didn&#8217;t get to see her during the school week. Until on the weekends, then she is on the phone, hushing us away as we knocked on her bedroom door, curious, or just wanting some attention, for her to talk to us. In my young adult years, I began to see her as emotionally manipulative. Due to her past, she is a child of incest, rejected by her mother, she had low-self esteem. She garnered self-esteem by putting her children down, making us feel confused, doubting our selves, gaslighting, belittling us in front of family members she held in esteem. She expected us to rise no higher than her level of self esteem, and therefore, me being the one who challenged her, I was ostracized and she tried to punish me for it. In my early 60&#8217;s I got strong, and I told her to her face &#8221; You don&#8217;t get to do that no more&#8221;. She is careful with me now. my brother and sister continued to suffer with mother pleasing.</p>
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		By: BethAnn		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi everyone,
I’m 37, and when it comes to therapy, I feel like a lifer.
I’ve been in and out of therapy since I left home in 2006 to go away to college. Before that, my dad wanted me to get a job and stay close to home, and I was doing everything I could to get out as fast as possible. I grew up fed, clothed, and with a warm bed every night, so from the outside things looked “fine,” but there was a lot happening underneath the surface that I didn’t have words for at the time.
My mom is intellectually challenged and reads/comprehends at an elementary school level. My dad is a workaholic and has always been the type to keep moving, keep working, and not really slow down. My younger sister (2 years younger) is also intellectually challenged, but she is higher functioning than my mom, she can work, manage medical appointments, and handle a lot on her own. She has two beautiful girls, and I would do absolutely anything for them.
Over the past several years, I isolated again, stopped taking my depression meds, and found myself right back in that familiar place of, “Okay, here we go again… let’s find a therapist I can stomach and not feel like I want to jump out of my skin with.” This time, I also reached out to a psychiatrist because I’ve been on depression meds since I was 18, and very few seem to help the way they used to. It’s exhausting when something that used to keep you afloat stops working.
My story is long, and I’m sure parts of it will be relatable to some people here. But even after 15 years of on-and-off group therapy, I still feel alone and not good enough at my core. “Complex” doesn’t even begin to explain what it feels like to live inside the tangled mess of my own thoughts. Some days it feels like I’m trying to sort through years of emotions with my hands tied behind my back.
I left college in 2009 to move back home when my younger sister got pregnant with my oldest niece. I was a junior, barely passing, and coming off academic probation. I drank a lot in college... maybe to numb things, maybe to feel happy, maybe both. I was always a happy drunk, which made it easier to ignore how much I was actually struggling.
When I moved home, I helped raise my niece because my sister needed me. Her father wasn’t around much in the beginning, and for a while friends, coworkers, and even strangers thought my niece was my daughter because she was with me so often. I was the one showing up, helping, carrying the weight, and doing what needed to be done. Over time, her father came back into the picture. He also has intellectual disabilities.
I stayed close to home and worked one meaningless job after another. I don’t mean that in a disrespectful way, some of those jobs taught me a lot, and I genuinely enjoyed parts of them, but for a long time I felt like I was just surviving, clocking in, clocking out, and trying not to think too hard about my life. Still, those jobs were stepping stones to where I am now. In my last three jobs, I’ve been in upper and senior leadership roles, which is something I’m proud of even if I don’t always let myself fully feel that.
My first relationship was physically and mentally abusive. After 6 years, I finally got the courage to leave, and that took more out of me than I can even explain. My second relationship was with an alcoholic, and I married her after a year. It wasn’t physically abusive, but it was emotionally exhausting and draining in a totally different way. I thought I could fix her, save her, love her enough to make things better, and of course I fell right back into my role as the people-pleaser/caregiver. After she got sober and I worked through my own program, we grew apart and divorced.
After that, I bounced from person to person and could never really commit. I think part of me was chasing connection, and another part of me was terrified of it. Then I lived alone for 5 years and honestly loved the solitude, peace, and quiet. For the first time in a long time, my space felt calm. No chaos. No constant emotional pull. Just silence, and room to breathe.
When COVID hit, my group therapy went virtual. I hated it through a screen. It felt disconnected, flat, and nothing like being in the room with people. Eventually I stepped away from it, and since then I’ve been slowly crawling my way back. “Crawling” is the best word for it, because it has not felt graceful or easy.
Shortly before COVID restrictions ended, I met a wonderful woman on TikTok. We talked for hours on the phone, met in person, dated a few months, and now 4.5 years later we’re engaged. She’s a mental health professional, and she’s the first person who has really been able to peek over my walls and stay there. She’s always, actively, lovingly trying to get past them, even when I shut down or pull back.
After some hard conversations, and a few weeks of really sitting in my own thoughts, I decided it was time for change again. Not just talking about change, not just thinking about it but actually doing something.
I think I’ve come to the realization in the last 48 hours that I may have CPTSD and CEN (childhood emotional neglect). I’m not 100% sure what exactly led me there, maybe a mental health article, maybe someone sharing their story on social media, but something clicked in a way I can’t really explain. It felt like pieces I’ve been carrying for years suddenly started lining up. I listened to Running on Empty in one sitting, and I’m actively listening to the second book now.
My story is long, and I’m still processing a lot of it. But I’m here, I’m trying, and for the first time in a while, I feel like I might finally be looking at the right things.
I don&#039;t know if there are support groups or chat rooms for CEN but if anyone knows of any, that be great information!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everyone,<br />
I’m 37, and when it comes to therapy, I feel like a lifer.<br />
I’ve been in and out of therapy since I left home in 2006 to go away to college. Before that, my dad wanted me to get a job and stay close to home, and I was doing everything I could to get out as fast as possible. I grew up fed, clothed, and with a warm bed every night, so from the outside things looked “fine,” but there was a lot happening underneath the surface that I didn’t have words for at the time.<br />
My mom is intellectually challenged and reads/comprehends at an elementary school level. My dad is a workaholic and has always been the type to keep moving, keep working, and not really slow down. My younger sister (2 years younger) is also intellectually challenged, but she is higher functioning than my mom, she can work, manage medical appointments, and handle a lot on her own. She has two beautiful girls, and I would do absolutely anything for them.<br />
Over the past several years, I isolated again, stopped taking my depression meds, and found myself right back in that familiar place of, “Okay, here we go again… let’s find a therapist I can stomach and not feel like I want to jump out of my skin with.” This time, I also reached out to a psychiatrist because I’ve been on depression meds since I was 18, and very few seem to help the way they used to. It’s exhausting when something that used to keep you afloat stops working.<br />
My story is long, and I’m sure parts of it will be relatable to some people here. But even after 15 years of on-and-off group therapy, I still feel alone and not good enough at my core. “Complex” doesn’t even begin to explain what it feels like to live inside the tangled mess of my own thoughts. Some days it feels like I’m trying to sort through years of emotions with my hands tied behind my back.<br />
I left college in 2009 to move back home when my younger sister got pregnant with my oldest niece. I was a junior, barely passing, and coming off academic probation. I drank a lot in college&#8230; maybe to numb things, maybe to feel happy, maybe both. I was always a happy drunk, which made it easier to ignore how much I was actually struggling.<br />
When I moved home, I helped raise my niece because my sister needed me. Her father wasn’t around much in the beginning, and for a while friends, coworkers, and even strangers thought my niece was my daughter because she was with me so often. I was the one showing up, helping, carrying the weight, and doing what needed to be done. Over time, her father came back into the picture. He also has intellectual disabilities.<br />
I stayed close to home and worked one meaningless job after another. I don’t mean that in a disrespectful way, some of those jobs taught me a lot, and I genuinely enjoyed parts of them, but for a long time I felt like I was just surviving, clocking in, clocking out, and trying not to think too hard about my life. Still, those jobs were stepping stones to where I am now. In my last three jobs, I’ve been in upper and senior leadership roles, which is something I’m proud of even if I don’t always let myself fully feel that.<br />
My first relationship was physically and mentally abusive. After 6 years, I finally got the courage to leave, and that took more out of me than I can even explain. My second relationship was with an alcoholic, and I married her after a year. It wasn’t physically abusive, but it was emotionally exhausting and draining in a totally different way. I thought I could fix her, save her, love her enough to make things better, and of course I fell right back into my role as the people-pleaser/caregiver. After she got sober and I worked through my own program, we grew apart and divorced.<br />
After that, I bounced from person to person and could never really commit. I think part of me was chasing connection, and another part of me was terrified of it. Then I lived alone for 5 years and honestly loved the solitude, peace, and quiet. For the first time in a long time, my space felt calm. No chaos. No constant emotional pull. Just silence, and room to breathe.<br />
When COVID hit, my group therapy went virtual. I hated it through a screen. It felt disconnected, flat, and nothing like being in the room with people. Eventually I stepped away from it, and since then I’ve been slowly crawling my way back. “Crawling” is the best word for it, because it has not felt graceful or easy.<br />
Shortly before COVID restrictions ended, I met a wonderful woman on TikTok. We talked for hours on the phone, met in person, dated a few months, and now 4.5 years later we’re engaged. She’s a mental health professional, and she’s the first person who has really been able to peek over my walls and stay there. She’s always, actively, lovingly trying to get past them, even when I shut down or pull back.<br />
After some hard conversations, and a few weeks of really sitting in my own thoughts, I decided it was time for change again. Not just talking about change, not just thinking about it but actually doing something.<br />
I think I’ve come to the realization in the last 48 hours that I may have CPTSD and CEN (childhood emotional neglect). I’m not 100% sure what exactly led me there, maybe a mental health article, maybe someone sharing their story on social media, but something clicked in a way I can’t really explain. It felt like pieces I’ve been carrying for years suddenly started lining up. I listened to Running on Empty in one sitting, and I’m actively listening to the second book now.<br />
My story is long, and I’m still processing a lot of it. But I’m here, I’m trying, and for the first time in a while, I feel like I might finally be looking at the right things.<br />
I don&#8217;t know if there are support groups or chat rooms for CEN but if anyone knows of any, that be great information!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 12:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/childhood-emotional-neglect-qa/comment-page-12/#comment-13220&quot;&gt;Louise&lt;/a&gt;.

this sounds very interesting to me. i have suffered chronic back pain since i was 15. when i turned 30 my left shoulder and neck started hurting as well. now i feel pain everywhere everyday. i also wonder if it has to do with so much unresolved issues with my bringing up.]]></description>
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<p>this sounds very interesting to me. i have suffered chronic back pain since i was 15. when i turned 30 my left shoulder and neck started hurting as well. now i feel pain everywhere everyday. i also wonder if it has to do with so much unresolved issues with my bringing up.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2026 12:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/childhood-emotional-neglect-qa/comment-page-12/#comment-13653&quot;&gt;Alistair Maclaurin&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Alistair.
I am 42 years old and I also went through the same situation. kinda. i had what I needed. Food, home, clothes. nothing fancy. more on the poor side to be honest. 
&quot;And no one said they loved me.
No one said it will be alright.
No one hugged me.
No one picked me up when I fell.
No one was interested in what I wanted.
No one asked me what I thought.
No one listened to me.
No one said I was good at anything.
No one said well done.
No one said, yes have a go.
No one!&quot;
when you said this, i felt it.
what confuses me the most and causes the most pain is NOT understanding why only me.
i hace 5 brothers and 3 sisters and out of the 9 of us, i was the only one being so negleted and ignored. now i understand i was the scape-goat but i still dont fully understand why only me.
i have two grown sons. 25 and 24 years old and i sure as heck tried to never make one feel less important than the other.
know you are loved more than you know.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/childhood-emotional-neglect-qa/comment-page-12/#comment-13653">Alistair Maclaurin</a>.</p>
<p>Hello Alistair.<br />
I am 42 years old and I also went through the same situation. kinda. i had what I needed. Food, home, clothes. nothing fancy. more on the poor side to be honest.<br />
&#8220;And no one said they loved me.<br />
No one said it will be alright.<br />
No one hugged me.<br />
No one picked me up when I fell.<br />
No one was interested in what I wanted.<br />
No one asked me what I thought.<br />
No one listened to me.<br />
No one said I was good at anything.<br />
No one said well done.<br />
No one said, yes have a go.<br />
No one!&#8221;<br />
when you said this, i felt it.<br />
what confuses me the most and causes the most pain is NOT understanding why only me.<br />
i hace 5 brothers and 3 sisters and out of the 9 of us, i was the only one being so negleted and ignored. now i understand i was the scape-goat but i still dont fully understand why only me.<br />
i have two grown sons. 25 and 24 years old and i sure as heck tried to never make one feel less important than the other.<br />
know you are loved more than you know.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2026 00:39:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I learned about CEN about 3 years ago and everything in my childhood started making sense.  It also has helped me to understand all the fears I have: of abandonment, rejection, and conflict/confrontation.  

I am part of the CEN group that is a product of a generational neglect.  I also am a highly sensitive person who gets easily overwhelmed and never felt seen or understood by my mom.  Logically I know that my mom couldn&#039;t be a parent who provided emotional understanding and guidance because its hard to do what you&#039;ve never seen or felt.  

One of my biggest struggles for me is having self-compassion and developing self-worth.  One of my survival strategies as a child was to become an obsessive people-pleaser.  It is very hard to stop when your whole life you learned that the only way to feel worthy, valued, accepted was to forget about what you liked, wanted, or needed.  

My therapist and I are using Internal Family System therapy (IFS), and I find that it make the most sense to me.  There are &quot;parts&quot; inside my life that are wounded/exiled, or try to manage/protect, or rush in to protect often in unhealthy ways such as addiction.  For me this has been binge eating.  It is not easy and takes a long time but I do think it will be the best way for me to be better.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I learned about CEN about 3 years ago and everything in my childhood started making sense.  It also has helped me to understand all the fears I have: of abandonment, rejection, and conflict/confrontation.  </p>
<p>I am part of the CEN group that is a product of a generational neglect.  I also am a highly sensitive person who gets easily overwhelmed and never felt seen or understood by my mom.  Logically I know that my mom couldn&#8217;t be a parent who provided emotional understanding and guidance because its hard to do what you&#8217;ve never seen or felt.  </p>
<p>One of my biggest struggles for me is having self-compassion and developing self-worth.  One of my survival strategies as a child was to become an obsessive people-pleaser.  It is very hard to stop when your whole life you learned that the only way to feel worthy, valued, accepted was to forget about what you liked, wanted, or needed.  </p>
<p>My therapist and I are using Internal Family System therapy (IFS), and I find that it make the most sense to me.  There are &#8220;parts&#8221; inside my life that are wounded/exiled, or try to manage/protect, or rush in to protect often in unhealthy ways such as addiction.  For me this has been binge eating.  It is not easy and takes a long time but I do think it will be the best way for me to be better.<br />
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2026 19:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/childhood-emotional-neglect-qa/comment-page-13/#comment-14799&quot;&gt;Leticia&lt;/a&gt;.

I experience the same with my parents - I don’t feel the love, and feel guilty about that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/childhood-emotional-neglect-qa/comment-page-13/#comment-14799">Leticia</a>.</p>
<p>I experience the same with my parents &#8211; I don’t feel the love, and feel guilty about that.</p>
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