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		By: Jonice		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2023 14:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-13454&quot;&gt;Sarah&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m so sorry, Sarah, this is horrible. I wish healing and health for you and your daughter.]]></description>
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<p>I&#8217;m so sorry, Sarah, this is horrible. I wish healing and health for you and your daughter.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2023 10:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A male Psychiatrist from Hamilton Ontario had been convicted of second degree felony, forcible sexual abuse, and third degree felony forcible sodomy… molestation of three juvenile patients at the ontario facility where he worked, and sexual assault of a highschool girl in a park. He destroyed my daughters life so much injustice in the world. Merry Christmas]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A male Psychiatrist from Hamilton Ontario had been convicted of second degree felony, forcible sexual abuse, and third degree felony forcible sodomy… molestation of three juvenile patients at the ontario facility where he worked, and sexual assault of a highschool girl in a park. He destroyed my daughters life so much injustice in the world. Merry Christmas</p>
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		By: Jonice		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2020 14:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4793&quot;&gt;Vivian&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Vivian, thank you for sharing this. I encourage you to just keep healing yourself and stay available and in contact with your daughter, no matter what you do or don&#039;t get back from her. The key is to be in &quot;emotional giving mode&quot; with her and do not expect anything back from her emotionally. She will feel it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4793">Vivian</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Vivian, thank you for sharing this. I encourage you to just keep healing yourself and stay available and in contact with your daughter, no matter what you do or don&#8217;t get back from her. The key is to be in &#8220;emotional giving mode&#8221; with her and do not expect anything back from her emotionally. She will feel it.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2020 20:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dr. Jonice,
It&#039;s so difficult when you&#039;re the parent, discover you have CEN and you passed it on to your only child which has been passed on to your grandchildren and great grandchildren. I&#039;m healing and making great headway with my father. I&#039;m 60 years old and my heart hurts so much as my daughter and her little family have shut me out of their lives. This I&#039;m trying to so hard and praying for them. I trying to juggle all of this is exhausting some times. Letting go is the most difficult thing of all. Allowing them time to heal and myself something I now understand a little better with the latest email you sent out about Survivors Guilt. Thanks for all you do. I have both books and understand this is a process for everyone in America today. People are just mad and lashing out against because they have been isolated and had to much time to brood and have let the anger fester and spew out at people. Thanks again.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Jonice,<br />
It&#8217;s so difficult when you&#8217;re the parent, discover you have CEN and you passed it on to your only child which has been passed on to your grandchildren and great grandchildren. I&#8217;m healing and making great headway with my father. I&#8217;m 60 years old and my heart hurts so much as my daughter and her little family have shut me out of their lives. This I&#8217;m trying to so hard and praying for them. I trying to juggle all of this is exhausting some times. Letting go is the most difficult thing of all. Allowing them time to heal and myself something I now understand a little better with the latest email you sent out about Survivors Guilt. Thanks for all you do. I have both books and understand this is a process for everyone in America today. People are just mad and lashing out against because they have been isolated and had to much time to brood and have let the anger fester and spew out at people. Thanks again.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2020 13:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4667&quot;&gt;Tanya&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Tanya, thank you so much for sharing your comment. It&#039;s very helpful to hear your thoughts and explanations. No doubt about it, the black race has suffered sustained Emotional Neglect. All my best to you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4667">Tanya</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Tanya, thank you so much for sharing your comment. It&#8217;s very helpful to hear your thoughts and explanations. No doubt about it, the black race has suffered sustained Emotional Neglect. All my best to you!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2020 12:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4664&quot;&gt;Ros&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Ros, instead of controlling your anger, maybe you can try to process it. Accept your anger, own it, and put it into words. Perhaps you can write a letter to your parents describing your anger and why you have it. You do not need to send the letter! Just writing it will help you process and release your feeling. I encourage you to seek out a CEN therapist from the list for help processing your anger as well. All my best wishes!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4664">Ros</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Ros, instead of controlling your anger, maybe you can try to process it. Accept your anger, own it, and put it into words. Perhaps you can write a letter to your parents describing your anger and why you have it. You do not need to send the letter! Just writing it will help you process and release your feeling. I encourage you to seek out a CEN therapist from the list for help processing your anger as well. All my best wishes!</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2020 01:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4642&quot;&gt;JB&lt;/a&gt;.

JB, 

I&#039;m a black woman, (attorney, multiple degrees, written 2 books) and I only JUST recently learned how best to explain Black Lives Matter.  So I&#039;m not judging anyone else who has been confused by it before now, as I couldn&#039;t translate it well enough myself even with my background. 

Example: My Stepmom had breast cancer. She&#039;s a survivor and now volunteers at hospitals and fundraisers. If we were at a fundraiser with her and someone came running into the room yelling &quot;LIVER CANCER MATTERS&quot; you would think they were a jerk. 

Having a rally to attract attention to and support breast cancer does not take anything from Liver Cancer or Prostate Cancer.  It&#039;s the people closely impacted by a subject asking others to care like they do. 

An even more accurate analogy would be if our rally were for a rare and underfunded form of cancer, like Adult Leukemia, and the very well funded, mainstream, big pink ribbon breast cancer folks showed up demanding our stage. 

I loved this analogy soo much, I&#039;ve decided expanded on it and share it here. 

I&#039;m glad you can look at your upbringing and spot the seeds of your anger. This article and you are both right, that something inside of us has to feed the anger we direct outside of us. 

I&#039;m glad you shared because soo many people will read our words. Very brave and thank you. 

Tanya,
Black Wife of a White CEN Man

P.S.  And because you are kind and this is a race discussion in part, I&#039;ll share this thought with you also. I do not like the word racist. I&#039;d use it for the kind of people who would call me the N word in traffic. However, I believe it&#039;s a mistake to use the term &quot;Anti-Racist&quot; as a rallying cry. I think it makes people avoid looking at themselves because who wants to put their hand up for THAT? I wouldn&#039;t. 

The best definition for white privilege (I&#039;ve never used this phrase in 46 years &#038; its everywhere now) is that your life has not been made HARDER by the color of your skin. 

Most would agree, it&#039;s often made easier - but erase that bit because you grew up poor. It just wasn&#039;t made HARDER. Are all white people racist? Of course not. That&#039;s asinine. 

Have whites been automatic beneficiaries of something that someone else paid for? Yes.  That&#039;s what I think is being surfaced, at least by non radical folks. 

It is that subtle, automatic beneficiary status, that you&#039;d receive, even unasked for, that I would not, that is at issue. 

If you have that, and you do, acknowledge it those who do NOT have it, are tired of not being able to get it and often, paid for it.  Guilt is not required but humility is helpful.

The observations of &quot;I didn&#039;t ask for it&quot; and &quot;I don&#039;t agree with it&quot; should never precede  or supplant &quot;I have it&quot;. That last bit gives me the empathy I think many are seeking. :-)

I hope you received this as it was intended, an attempt to give some new perspectives that you can then share with other good people you know.   

As suffers of CEN and it&#039;s effects we know how VALUABLE it is to just feel HEARD. Thank you all for listening. 

And thank you to Dr. Webb for opening her forum in this way. These are dangerous times for white people to speak up (so many are being verbally pounced on, which makes me cringe) and I respect your clarity and your willingness to swim past the buoys of safety. 

Oddly enough, it would seem the black race has suffered sustained Emotional Neglect and just like us CEN folks, are struggling to find their way through the pain of it to recovery.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4642">JB</a>.</p>
<p>JB, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a black woman, (attorney, multiple degrees, written 2 books) and I only JUST recently learned how best to explain Black Lives Matter.  So I&#8217;m not judging anyone else who has been confused by it before now, as I couldn&#8217;t translate it well enough myself even with my background. </p>
<p>Example: My Stepmom had breast cancer. She&#8217;s a survivor and now volunteers at hospitals and fundraisers. If we were at a fundraiser with her and someone came running into the room yelling &#8220;LIVER CANCER MATTERS&#8221; you would think they were a jerk. </p>
<p>Having a rally to attract attention to and support breast cancer does not take anything from Liver Cancer or Prostate Cancer.  It&#8217;s the people closely impacted by a subject asking others to care like they do. </p>
<p>An even more accurate analogy would be if our rally were for a rare and underfunded form of cancer, like Adult Leukemia, and the very well funded, mainstream, big pink ribbon breast cancer folks showed up demanding our stage. </p>
<p>I loved this analogy soo much, I&#8217;ve decided expanded on it and share it here. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you can look at your upbringing and spot the seeds of your anger. This article and you are both right, that something inside of us has to feed the anger we direct outside of us. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you shared because soo many people will read our words. Very brave and thank you. </p>
<p>Tanya,<br />
Black Wife of a White CEN Man</p>
<p>P.S.  And because you are kind and this is a race discussion in part, I&#8217;ll share this thought with you also. I do not like the word racist. I&#8217;d use it for the kind of people who would call me the N word in traffic. However, I believe it&#8217;s a mistake to use the term &#8220;Anti-Racist&#8221; as a rallying cry. I think it makes people avoid looking at themselves because who wants to put their hand up for THAT? I wouldn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>The best definition for white privilege (I&#8217;ve never used this phrase in 46 years &amp; its everywhere now) is that your life has not been made HARDER by the color of your skin. </p>
<p>Most would agree, it&#8217;s often made easier &#8211; but erase that bit because you grew up poor. It just wasn&#8217;t made HARDER. Are all white people racist? Of course not. That&#8217;s asinine. </p>
<p>Have whites been automatic beneficiaries of something that someone else paid for? Yes.  That&#8217;s what I think is being surfaced, at least by non radical folks. </p>
<p>It is that subtle, automatic beneficiary status, that you&#8217;d receive, even unasked for, that I would not, that is at issue. </p>
<p>If you have that, and you do, acknowledge it those who do NOT have it, are tired of not being able to get it and often, paid for it.  Guilt is not required but humility is helpful.</p>
<p>The observations of &#8220;I didn&#8217;t ask for it&#8221; and &#8220;I don&#8217;t agree with it&#8221; should never precede  or supplant &#8220;I have it&#8221;. That last bit gives me the empathy I think many are seeking. 🙂</p>
<p>I hope you received this as it was intended, an attempt to give some new perspectives that you can then share with other good people you know.   </p>
<p>As suffers of CEN and it&#8217;s effects we know how VALUABLE it is to just feel HEARD. Thank you all for listening. </p>
<p>And thank you to Dr. Webb for opening her forum in this way. These are dangerous times for white people to speak up (so many are being verbally pounced on, which makes me cringe) and I respect your clarity and your willingness to swim past the buoys of safety. </p>
<p>Oddly enough, it would seem the black race has suffered sustained Emotional Neglect and just like us CEN folks, are struggling to find their way through the pain of it to recovery.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2020 21:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have a similar problem to Emily. However both my parents are emotionally immature. My mother is probably a covert Narcissist. I have limited my exposure to my parents for years because it just made me feel frustrated and angry.   When I read your book and discovered that this is the best course of action I felt relieved of a lot of guilt for doing this. My question is, how do I stop feeling so angry about what they did to me. I feel if I could explain to them how it has affected me and for them to express compassion and understanding and be sorry I could get closure. But I know this would not be their response. I am in my 50s now and I’ve spent my entire life trying to recover from my childhood. I know intellectually that both my parents were themselves treated the way they treated me. But the anger is still always there just below the surface. I control it well but it’s so exhausting. How do I forgive them and finally have peace?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar problem to Emily. However both my parents are emotionally immature. My mother is probably a covert Narcissist. I have limited my exposure to my parents for years because it just made me feel frustrated and angry.   When I read your book and discovered that this is the best course of action I felt relieved of a lot of guilt for doing this. My question is, how do I stop feeling so angry about what they did to me. I feel if I could explain to them how it has affected me and for them to express compassion and understanding and be sorry I could get closure. But I know this would not be their response. I am in my 50s now and I’ve spent my entire life trying to recover from my childhood. I know intellectually that both my parents were themselves treated the way they treated me. But the anger is still always there just below the surface. I control it well but it’s so exhausting. How do I forgive them and finally have peace?</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2020 19:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4649&quot;&gt;Emily&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Emily, actually healing doesn&#039;t happen through spouses and children. Healing CEN happens within yourself and how you treat your own emotions and that&#039;s what the entire book, Running On Empty, is about. I did write my second book, and also blog, about marriage and parenting too because when you start healing yourself, it has ripple effects in every area of your life. I surely do take your point and your request. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4649">Emily</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Emily, actually healing doesn&#8217;t happen through spouses and children. Healing CEN happens within yourself and how you treat your own emotions and that&#8217;s what the entire book, Running On Empty, is about. I did write my second book, and also blog, about marriage and parenting too because when you start healing yourself, it has ripple effects in every area of your life. I surely do take your point and your request. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2020 19:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4654&quot;&gt;Janet&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Janet, I&#039;m sorry that happened to you. This is the harm that goes around and around in the world. Harmed children harm other children. Who knows what those girls were dealing with in their own lives. And now you are harmed by it too. Any time children are mistreated for any reason, it has ripple effects. Thanks for sharing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-child-abuse-and-neglect-plant-the-seeds-of-racism-in-our-children/comment-page-1/#comment-4654">Janet</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Janet, I&#8217;m sorry that happened to you. This is the harm that goes around and around in the world. Harmed children harm other children. Who knows what those girls were dealing with in their own lives. And now you are harmed by it too. Any time children are mistreated for any reason, it has ripple effects. Thanks for sharing.</p>
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