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		By: MC		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[My parents did charity work when I was growing up, they were gone on weekends &#038; several nights during the week. I spent most of my time alone or w/ other families. My Dad was a  career military man &#038; discipline was foremost in our home. They were extremely restrictive &#038; religious. My sister is 18 yrs. older, I was a surprise baby. She married very young so we never lived together. She hated me from the time I was in utero &#038; has shown jealousy &#038; treated me abusively since I can remember. I married at 39 &#038; discovered that my husband is Asperger. He absolutely doesn&#039;t like to talk, share meals or do anything in a couple like manner. He is gone 7 days a week. He too was neglected but has zero self awareness &#038; demonstrates only explosive anger &#038; apathy for managing his life. I realize after decades of wandering lost down a haunting hallway of not belonging, that valuing ourselves &#038; showing up for ourselves in the only path to true connection, joy &#038; freedom. Through my writing I&#039;ve helped heal others &#038; myself. Thank you for reading my story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents did charity work when I was growing up, they were gone on weekends &amp; several nights during the week. I spent most of my time alone or w/ other families. My Dad was a  career military man &amp; discipline was foremost in our home. They were extremely restrictive &amp; religious. My sister is 18 yrs. older, I was a surprise baby. She married very young so we never lived together. She hated me from the time I was in utero &amp; has shown jealousy &amp; treated me abusively since I can remember. I married at 39 &amp; discovered that my husband is Asperger. He absolutely doesn&#8217;t like to talk, share meals or do anything in a couple like manner. He is gone 7 days a week. He too was neglected but has zero self awareness &amp; demonstrates only explosive anger &amp; apathy for managing his life. I realize after decades of wandering lost down a haunting hallway of not belonging, that valuing ourselves &amp; showing up for ourselves in the only path to true connection, joy &amp; freedom. Through my writing I&#8217;ve helped heal others &amp; myself. Thank you for reading my story.</p>
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		By: Jonice		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2020 17:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-4250&quot;&gt;Katarina&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Katarina, this sounds like a painful situation for all. Perhaps you could ask your daughter exactly what went on during those visits and why they were so exhausting if you haven&#039;t already done so.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-4250">Katarina</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Katarina, this sounds like a painful situation for all. Perhaps you could ask your daughter exactly what went on during those visits and why they were so exhausting if you haven&#8217;t already done so.</p>
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		By: Katarina		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2020 07:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks for this amazing information- I think I have finally found what has been &#039;wrong&#039; with me all my life ie CEN and also possibly abandonment.

My teenage daughter has been severely ill for years now, fearful, depressed and withdrawn from life. While I have possibly passed some CEN onto her I wonder if the years in which she was forced (by the Family Court)  to spend regular time with her father was interpreted as emotional and physical abandonment? She (and her brother) would return home after weekend or longer visits and describe their exhaustion at pretending that they were happy and ok for the entire visit, and my daughter would become extremely distressed before each visit. Even though she begged to stay home I had to tell her that I could do nothing to stop the visits.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this amazing information- I think I have finally found what has been &#8216;wrong&#8217; with me all my life ie CEN and also possibly abandonment.</p>
<p>My teenage daughter has been severely ill for years now, fearful, depressed and withdrawn from life. While I have possibly passed some CEN onto her I wonder if the years in which she was forced (by the Family Court)  to spend regular time with her father was interpreted as emotional and physical abandonment? She (and her brother) would return home after weekend or longer visits and describe their exhaustion at pretending that they were happy and ok for the entire visit, and my daughter would become extremely distressed before each visit. Even though she begged to stay home I had to tell her that I could do nothing to stop the visits.</p>
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		By: Jonice		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-3024&quot;&gt;Kaylie&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Kaylie, I think you would benefit from seeing a trauma specialist. Many therapists are trained in it, and I hope you will find a good one. You deserve to be understood, guided and supported through the process of healing your childhood trauma. All my best wishes to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-3024">Kaylie</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Kaylie, I think you would benefit from seeing a trauma specialist. Many therapists are trained in it, and I hope you will find a good one. You deserve to be understood, guided and supported through the process of healing your childhood trauma. All my best wishes to you.</p>
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		By: Kaylie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Aug 2019 22:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s helpful to read what other people write here. I don&#039;t have many memories of childhood at all and am wondering if others are having that. My therapist suspects infant neglect, but of course, this can&#039;t be confirmed if one doesn&#039;t remember. All I have to go on is that my aunt remember&#039;s occasionally that my mom would just spank me when I would cry. 

I have been suicidal for years. My brother and my cousin committed suicide. I have found over the years that therapists are often not well-equipped to deal with those feelings, often simply having me sign a contract, and telling me that suicide is not the answer. I suspect often that therapists are busy trying to protect themselves and to control the situation and forget that even if I stay alive, the deep sadness and sense of worthlessness doesn&#039;t change. It hasn&#039;t even with years of therapy. Hoping I can at least find a community where others might feel similar.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s helpful to read what other people write here. I don&#8217;t have many memories of childhood at all and am wondering if others are having that. My therapist suspects infant neglect, but of course, this can&#8217;t be confirmed if one doesn&#8217;t remember. All I have to go on is that my aunt remember&#8217;s occasionally that my mom would just spank me when I would cry. </p>
<p>I have been suicidal for years. My brother and my cousin committed suicide. I have found over the years that therapists are often not well-equipped to deal with those feelings, often simply having me sign a contract, and telling me that suicide is not the answer. I suspect often that therapists are busy trying to protect themselves and to control the situation and forget that even if I stay alive, the deep sadness and sense of worthlessness doesn&#8217;t change. It hasn&#8217;t even with years of therapy. Hoping I can at least find a community where others might feel similar.</p>
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		By: Jonice		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2019 21:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-2426&quot;&gt;Tim S&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Tim, you are so right that there is a time for parents to let go but the timing must be right. I&#039;m glad you are progressing in your healing. Keep it up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-2426">Tim S</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Tim, you are so right that there is a time for parents to let go but the timing must be right. I&#8217;m glad you are progressing in your healing. Keep it up!</p>
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		By: Tim S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Mar 2019 10:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The abandonment side of things is a really big deal for me. One of the few questions I answer &quot;no&quot; to on the CEN test is the one about whether I take pride in my Independence. I don&#039;t take pride in it for the very simple reason that my options are 1) be independent or 2) die. Independence was a matter of survival in the emotional desert I grew up in, and like most children, I learned that lesson very well.

There were a couple experiences that I remember that felt like significant abandonment, and I know that I shut down and withdrew from my family and parents to a greater or lesser extent each time. My mother (who has changed greatly for the better over the last number of years) once mentioned a time when I pushed both her and my father away, and I suspect it was in response to one of those abandonment experiences (presumably the second one, which was around age 6). The really sad part is that I was an incredibly honest child, and the only thing that needed to happen to completely transform everything was for somebody to pull me aside, ask me what was wrong, and not settle for the initial &quot;nothing&quot; response that I believed to be expected. I don&#039;t recall ever getting pulled aside and asked if everything was okay, much less actually being pressed on the issue.

Part of the irony is that my parents essentially started treating me as an adult while I was still quite young. The way they treat me now is essentially the same as the way they treated me then, but as an adult now I&#039;m really appreciative of the fact that they will respect my decisions without pushing back on them. As a child, that lack of pushback was the ultimate expression of abandonment, and now as an adult it&#039;s experienced as the very positive trait of being able to let go instead of attempting to live vicariously through me.

There is a time and a place for parents to begin letting go and a time and a place for them to finish that process. In neither case has the time or place arrived while the child isn&#039;t even halfway to being a teen yet. Someday, I&#039;ll get to a point where the trauma of it loses the last of its grip on me, but I&#039;m not there yet. I&#039;ve been seeing some really significant progress lately, and that&#039;s always an encouraging thing to see.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The abandonment side of things is a really big deal for me. One of the few questions I answer &#8220;no&#8221; to on the CEN test is the one about whether I take pride in my Independence. I don&#8217;t take pride in it for the very simple reason that my options are 1) be independent or 2) die. Independence was a matter of survival in the emotional desert I grew up in, and like most children, I learned that lesson very well.</p>
<p>There were a couple experiences that I remember that felt like significant abandonment, and I know that I shut down and withdrew from my family and parents to a greater or lesser extent each time. My mother (who has changed greatly for the better over the last number of years) once mentioned a time when I pushed both her and my father away, and I suspect it was in response to one of those abandonment experiences (presumably the second one, which was around age 6). The really sad part is that I was an incredibly honest child, and the only thing that needed to happen to completely transform everything was for somebody to pull me aside, ask me what was wrong, and not settle for the initial &#8220;nothing&#8221; response that I believed to be expected. I don&#8217;t recall ever getting pulled aside and asked if everything was okay, much less actually being pressed on the issue.</p>
<p>Part of the irony is that my parents essentially started treating me as an adult while I was still quite young. The way they treat me now is essentially the same as the way they treated me then, but as an adult now I&#8217;m really appreciative of the fact that they will respect my decisions without pushing back on them. As a child, that lack of pushback was the ultimate expression of abandonment, and now as an adult it&#8217;s experienced as the very positive trait of being able to let go instead of attempting to live vicariously through me.</p>
<p>There is a time and a place for parents to begin letting go and a time and a place for them to finish that process. In neither case has the time or place arrived while the child isn&#8217;t even halfway to being a teen yet. Someday, I&#8217;ll get to a point where the trauma of it loses the last of its grip on me, but I&#8217;m not there yet. I&#8217;ve been seeing some really significant progress lately, and that&#8217;s always an encouraging thing to see.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-2421&quot;&gt;Dorothy&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Dorothy, I know it&#039;s painful to realize but the positive side is that you can heal it. And you&#039;ve already taken he first step which is becoming aware.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-2421">Dorothy</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Dorothy, I know it&#8217;s painful to realize but the positive side is that you can heal it. And you&#8217;ve already taken he first step which is becoming aware.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 11:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-2422&quot;&gt;Tim Robbins&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m sorry that happened to you. Just keep in mind that you can heal your CEN. It&#039;s important!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-2422">Tim Robbins</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that happened to you. Just keep in mind that you can heal your CEN. It&#8217;s important!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Robbins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Mar 2019 10:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-2409&quot;&gt;Jonice&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Jonice.  My adoptive parents were caring, but emotionally distant and ultra practical.  They absolutely bought into everything  the doctors said and did.  I had no knowledge or say in any of it.  As a teenager I once woke up from surgery to discover my genitals had been cut in half.  It was a planned surgical procedure but I wasn&#039;t told.  It&#039;s so hard to accept, to believe my traits are caused by CEN, but there seems just too much coincidence to discount it.  The slow realisation makes my blood run cold.  Thank you for the insights.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/how-to-know-if-you-were-emotionally-abandoned-as-a-kid-4-signs/comment-page-1/#comment-2409">Jonice</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Jonice.  My adoptive parents were caring, but emotionally distant and ultra practical.  They absolutely bought into everything  the doctors said and did.  I had no knowledge or say in any of it.  As a teenager I once woke up from surgery to discover my genitals had been cut in half.  It was a planned surgical procedure but I wasn&#8217;t told.  It&#8217;s so hard to accept, to believe my traits are caused by CEN, but there seems just too much coincidence to discount it.  The slow realisation makes my blood run cold.  Thank you for the insights.</p>
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