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		By: Elizabeth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elizabeth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2021 13:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4246&quot;&gt;Infran&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, I think (factor 1) psychopaths can see feelings, even if only cognitively, for example, they can see a child crying. But instead of empathising they think the child is being manipulative, for example, or calling attention to themselves when the psychopath wants to be busy doing something else more interesting to them at that moment.
 The knock on effects of the biological impossibility of a meaningful, consistent and positive emotional connection with a parent are profound. I feel I have been truly heroic only to find out that my trip to hell and back was all for nothing, in the sense that nothing I could have done would have lit up the areas of a brain that were always going to be dark.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4246">Infran</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, I think (factor 1) psychopaths can see feelings, even if only cognitively, for example, they can see a child crying. But instead of empathising they think the child is being manipulative, for example, or calling attention to themselves when the psychopath wants to be busy doing something else more interesting to them at that moment.<br />
 The knock on effects of the biological impossibility of a meaningful, consistent and positive emotional connection with a parent are profound. I feel I have been truly heroic only to find out that my trip to hell and back was all for nothing, in the sense that nothing I could have done would have lit up the areas of a brain that were always going to be dark.</p>
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		By: Jonice		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Apr 2020 18:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4505&quot;&gt;Lori&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Lori, I encourage you to go to an Al-Anon meeting. You are in a no-win situation dealing with an addicted family member and you will find excellent support and help there. Also, consider seeing a therapist to help you form some boundaries with your parents and hold them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4505">Lori</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Lori, I encourage you to go to an Al-Anon meeting. You are in a no-win situation dealing with an addicted family member and you will find excellent support and help there. Also, consider seeing a therapist to help you form some boundaries with your parents and hold them.</p>
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		By: Lori		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2020 23:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Dr. Jonice:
  Thanks so much for this article! I read your articles on Psych Central and really find them helpful in understanding some of my family&#039;s dysfunction as well as my own feelings. In fact, after just now getting off the phone with my mom and listening to her complaints (legitimate, but...) and obsessing over the same thing for the past several years I am sitting here wishing I could ship certain family members to you because none of them are willing to listen to me, change any of THEIR behaviors or get help yet they constantly turn to me and cry on my shoulder!! This was &quot;getting old&quot; two years ago but now it&#039;s to the point where it is impacting me more than ever and I am tired of the chaos and drama. Yet when I tell my mom and my (half) brother, that they are so enmeshed it&#039;s not healthy, that his alcoholism, anger, rage, false accusations, name calling, self harm, destroying property etc are HUGE red flags and puts her potentially at risk, she claims &quot;oh, he&#039;d never hurt anyone, he&#039;s my son, what am I supposed to do? I can&#039;t let him starve!&quot; 
  She lives on very modest retirement income and is elderly with health conditions--at risk for Covid-19. Yet he calls her to say &quot;mom I&#039;m out of everything, and I also need cigarettes. I have nothing to drink, no food for my dog.. but it&#039;s just me, I&#039;m not important anyway.&quot; She says &quot;Don&#039;t be silly, of course you are. You know I love you!&quot; He will say with a sarcastic snort &quot;Yeah right, YOU don&#039;t love ME! You should have just drowned me when I was born or aborted me!&quot; Or, she will say &quot;okay if you are out of stuff we&#039;ll drive down and take you to the store&quot; and then drive 90 minutes each way. Only for him to buy very little when she gets here and THEN ask her to stop at another convenience store near him where he will buy cigarettes, beer (usually four 24 oz cans and drink them in one night) and/or vodka. THEN later, he will be at home, depressed, drunk, lonely and call our mother and tear her apart verbally--mock her for being hard of hearing, mock her tone of voice, accuse her of not loving him, only wanting to make herself happy (sooo NOT true), lying about stuff, cheating on his father (who sexually abused me for years and is now dead), calls her &quot;Satan,&quot; a &quot;poor excuse of a mother,&quot; &quot;evil&quot;, tells her &quot;I&#039;ll see you in hell B--CH!&quot; or will scream at her and at times, tell her SHE MAKES him angry and he will tell her he&#039;s cut himself because of her etc. We call the police and then when they talk to him, he is calm and says &quot;oh, my family just worries a lot--they are worrywarts, I&#039;m sorry Officer that they bothered you!&quot; Then he tells her if she ever does that again he will be dead before they arrive--and when I called to get him some help, he physically threatened me.
 So totally unlike who he used to be!! I am just so tired of this constant chaos. He goes from saying we are his &quot;best friends&quot; we &quot;saved him from starvation&quot; and has told me I am his &quot;guardian angel&quot; and his &quot;hero and always have been&quot; to being totally in a rage and not in control.
 I guess I just needed to vent... Thanks.
Lori]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dr. Jonice:<br />
  Thanks so much for this article! I read your articles on Psych Central and really find them helpful in understanding some of my family&#8217;s dysfunction as well as my own feelings. In fact, after just now getting off the phone with my mom and listening to her complaints (legitimate, but&#8230;) and obsessing over the same thing for the past several years I am sitting here wishing I could ship certain family members to you because none of them are willing to listen to me, change any of THEIR behaviors or get help yet they constantly turn to me and cry on my shoulder!! This was &#8220;getting old&#8221; two years ago but now it&#8217;s to the point where it is impacting me more than ever and I am tired of the chaos and drama. Yet when I tell my mom and my (half) brother, that they are so enmeshed it&#8217;s not healthy, that his alcoholism, anger, rage, false accusations, name calling, self harm, destroying property etc are HUGE red flags and puts her potentially at risk, she claims &#8220;oh, he&#8217;d never hurt anyone, he&#8217;s my son, what am I supposed to do? I can&#8217;t let him starve!&#8221;<br />
  She lives on very modest retirement income and is elderly with health conditions&#8211;at risk for Covid-19. Yet he calls her to say &#8220;mom I&#8217;m out of everything, and I also need cigarettes. I have nothing to drink, no food for my dog.. but it&#8217;s just me, I&#8217;m not important anyway.&#8221; She says &#8220;Don&#8217;t be silly, of course you are. You know I love you!&#8221; He will say with a sarcastic snort &#8220;Yeah right, YOU don&#8217;t love ME! You should have just drowned me when I was born or aborted me!&#8221; Or, she will say &#8220;okay if you are out of stuff we&#8217;ll drive down and take you to the store&#8221; and then drive 90 minutes each way. Only for him to buy very little when she gets here and THEN ask her to stop at another convenience store near him where he will buy cigarettes, beer (usually four 24 oz cans and drink them in one night) and/or vodka. THEN later, he will be at home, depressed, drunk, lonely and call our mother and tear her apart verbally&#8211;mock her for being hard of hearing, mock her tone of voice, accuse her of not loving him, only wanting to make herself happy (sooo NOT true), lying about stuff, cheating on his father (who sexually abused me for years and is now dead), calls her &#8220;Satan,&#8221; a &#8220;poor excuse of a mother,&#8221; &#8220;evil&#8221;, tells her &#8220;I&#8217;ll see you in hell B&#8211;CH!&#8221; or will scream at her and at times, tell her SHE MAKES him angry and he will tell her he&#8217;s cut himself because of her etc. We call the police and then when they talk to him, he is calm and says &#8220;oh, my family just worries a lot&#8211;they are worrywarts, I&#8217;m sorry Officer that they bothered you!&#8221; Then he tells her if she ever does that again he will be dead before they arrive&#8211;and when I called to get him some help, he physically threatened me.<br />
 So totally unlike who he used to be!! I am just so tired of this constant chaos. He goes from saying we are his &#8220;best friends&#8221; we &#8220;saved him from starvation&#8221; and has told me I am his &#8220;guardian angel&#8221; and his &#8220;hero and always have been&#8221; to being totally in a rage and not in control.<br />
 I guess I just needed to vent&#8230; Thanks.<br />
Lori</p>
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		By: Jonice		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2020 02:07:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4246&quot;&gt;Infran&lt;/a&gt;.

Interesting thoughts, Infran. Thanks for sharing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4246">Infran</a>.</p>
<p>Interesting thoughts, Infran. Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		By: Infran		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2020 19:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Sociopathic parents are not able to see or respond to, much less validate, their child’s feelings.&quot;

Actually, from my own research, psycho/sociopaths *can* often trek what others are feeling, but as James Fallon (diagnosed and self-identifying &quot;pro-social&quot; psychopath) put it, the thing is that they just don&#039;t care about it.

I think that&#039;s probably the one of the biggest - if not THE biggest - misconceptions that we tend to make: that just because someone is aware of something means that they care about it, particularly where feelings are involved.  With no disrespect intended, I honestly don&#039;t understand why people make that conclusion. ^_^;

But honestly, think about it: for the ones that DO manipulate, how could they do so if they couldn&#039;t tell what you were feeling?  Or at least, I think it would put limits on *how* they could manipulate you.

Personally, I think the most important thing is whether someone - psycho/sociopath or otherwise - decides that people are important and deserve respect, and are aware of whether they treat them that way.  (I have met people who go on about being nice to people,  sincerely mean it, and then go against their own standards without being aware of it. o_o;;  This might be more dangerous than whether or not they CARE.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sociopathic parents are not able to see or respond to, much less validate, their child’s feelings.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, from my own research, psycho/sociopaths *can* often trek what others are feeling, but as James Fallon (diagnosed and self-identifying &#8220;pro-social&#8221; psychopath) put it, the thing is that they just don&#8217;t care about it.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s probably the one of the biggest &#8211; if not THE biggest &#8211; misconceptions that we tend to make: that just because someone is aware of something means that they care about it, particularly where feelings are involved.  With no disrespect intended, I honestly don&#8217;t understand why people make that conclusion. ^_^;</p>
<p>But honestly, think about it: for the ones that DO manipulate, how could they do so if they couldn&#8217;t tell what you were feeling?  Or at least, I think it would put limits on *how* they could manipulate you.</p>
<p>Personally, I think the most important thing is whether someone &#8211; psycho/sociopath or otherwise &#8211; decides that people are important and deserve respect, and are aware of whether they treat them that way.  (I have met people who go on about being nice to people,  sincerely mean it, and then go against their own standards without being aware of it. o_o;;  This might be more dangerous than whether or not they CARE.)</p>
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		By: Jonice		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 13:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4240&quot;&gt;Summer&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Summer, I&#039;m so glad to be helpful to you. Thanks for your comment!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4240">Summer</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Summer, I&#8217;m so glad to be helpful to you. Thanks for your comment!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 13:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4239&quot;&gt;Laurie&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Laurie, it sounds like you&#039;ve found a good therapist and done some good work. I&#039;m glad to hear it and keep it up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4239">Laurie</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Laurie, it sounds like you&#8217;ve found a good therapist and done some good work. I&#8217;m glad to hear it and keep it up!</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 13:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4238&quot;&gt;M.&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks so much for sharing, M. I&#039;m glad you have found some answers to help you and your mom in my book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4238">M.</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for sharing, M. I&#8217;m glad you have found some answers to help you and your mom in my book.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 13:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4237&quot;&gt;Dorothy&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Dorothy, keep protecting yourself, it&#039;s all you can do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://drjonicewebb.com/why-labeling-someone-a-sociopath-can-be-a-double-edged-sword/comment-page-1/#comment-4237">Dorothy</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Dorothy, keep protecting yourself, it&#8217;s all you can do.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2020 03:22:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Once again, another great article. Thank you sincerely for your studies and hard work, all in the name of helping and healing others.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, another great article. Thank you sincerely for your studies and hard work, all in the name of helping and healing others.</p>
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